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Pte. Silcox
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posted 01 February 2021 22:33     Profile for Pte. Silcox   Email Pte. Silcox     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
whoa, this board changed a bit..

anyways,

Hey,

Once my backround check gets finished i should be slotted in for a course this summer
(does anyone know if there will be an infantry QL2/3 course in wainright this summer?)

having that said, i would like to ask which muscle group I should paticularly work on to prepare for training.

Thanks in advance
Travis Silcox


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posted 02 February 2021 00:45     Profile for McG   Email McG     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Everything! It is important that you have a well rounded fitness program. We've all seen the type who spends allhis time developing his upperbody, but can't keep with the pack on a short jog. No better is the one who can (and occasionally does) run circles around the group but cannot hump his share of kit and ammo in the field. These are extremes, but they illustrate the point.

Go for a run and visit the gym several times a week.


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posted 02 February 2021 01:09     Profile for 2 Charlie     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hi Travis,

Which unit are in/joining?

If you are near Victoria, give the base gym a call and tell them what you are planning, they should be able to give you a generic routine for strength and cardio.

If not, e-mail me and I can probably get something for you. Remember, a routine is only as good as the honesty that a person exerts to ones self.

Cheers and good luck.


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posted 02 February 2021 13:03     Profile for bossi   Email bossi     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What can a soldier do who charges when out of breath?
Vegetius: De Re Militari, iii, 378

The foundation of training depends on the legs and not the arms. All the secret of maneuver and combat is in the legs, and it is to the legs that we shoudl apply ourselves.
Maurice de Saxe: Mes Reveries, v, 1732

- do two types of running: wind sprints, and distance

- basic exercises: push-ups and situps (actually, the old 5BX is good simply because you don't need any fancy equipment, and "squat thrusts" are actually not a bad exercise, either). Chin-ups are good, too, because it's "make or break" - unlike pushups, it's difficult to fake a chin-up ...

- muscles: whatever it takes to get you ready to pick up a heavy rucksack and then carry it on a long march

- swimming is a good, all-over workout, provided you work hard at it (and not just splash around)

Good Luck!

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Well, I have to agree with McG that general fitness is most important. Seeing that you are into Defendo and Rugby, you presumably already have a good fitness base. Now the question is how to best develop it. Running for distance and speed will both be useful, but plan how you're going to do it. Use the time you have in order to hit your peak a week or more before you are due to go on course, and leave yourself enough time to recover before you go. Don't get to course already exhausted or injured. This applies to whatever exercise program you choose.

My personal favourite pre-course training (especially on off days) was to strap on the boots, fill a ruck with something heavy, and do some hiking. It's great for strength and endurance, and it'll get you accustomed to doing distances with a pack on.


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posted 02 February 2021 20:24     Profile for Pte. Silcox   Email Pte. Silcox     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks guys

I am joining the Westies (B company)
(thanks for the offer 2 charlie)

Thanks for the advice, ultimately the legs are most important then.

I already attend a gym regularly, my program right now(without getting into the specifics) is high wieght low reps

Is it generally accepted here that everybody has diffrent bodytypes? (eg, some people are made for running, others for carrying)

Anyways, I've never tried hiking before, but it sounds like alot of fun. Are you saying I shouldn't workout a week before course? does the QL2/3 course add wieghtlifting as a part of PT?

Thanks for the info
Travis Silcox
(nice quotes bossi)


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posted 03 February 2021 15:10     Profile for RCA     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
As to the QL2/3 in Wainwright, As of the last schedule I've seen there will be several running this summer in WATC Wainwright. (I can almost guarentee that they will run because the QL2/3 are the life blood of any unit and will have prioity for running at WATC.)

Your Ops and Trg will have that info but ensure thru your chain of command that you are indeed loaded on the crse. And keep pushing until you are sure. You will find that the best person to lok after your military "career " is yourself.

Good luck (and plan on doing at the minimum a 13 km ruck with 50 kgs on the course)

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posted 03 February 2021 21:58     Profile for Pte. Silcox   Email Pte. Silcox     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks for the advice RCA

the 13 km march sounds fun =)


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posted 04 February 2021 15:17     Profile for JRMACDONALD   Email JRMACDONALD     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
RCA- a correction, i believe, the ruck march is 50 lbs(22-23 Kgs), not 50 Kgs( my aching back!!!!!)

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posted 04 February 2021 16:14     Profile for RCA     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
JR - of course I stand corrected. Obviously the vaunted artillery double check was not obseved this time.

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posted 12 March 2021 14:21     Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
This seems to be a common topic as I found this related subjects on the old War Diary:

Phys. Pre-Training for Infantry

Must one be a top athlete to make it?

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posted 12 March 2021 22:09     Profile for PteJoe   Author's Homepage   Email PteJoe     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hey everyone,
do any of you have a good workout routine for a new recruit?
I go to the gym everyday, weights every second day, but I am not that fit, I'm having hard time with pushups.. I know I can by the time for Basic Training, but the recruiting process is going so fast, I fear my PT test will be sooner then I'd like it to.

By the way, what exactly are wind sprints?

Any pointers you can give will be greatly appreciated.

Joe


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posted 14 March 2021 13:39     Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Here are a few more old discusions generated by new or potential recruits looking for what to expect:

information
Basic training: what do we learn?
Basic Reserve Training?
Basic Training For Officers?
How Long Does It Take To Get In The Forces?
Basic Training
How should I persuade my parents to let me join?
Am I too old?
recruiting
Basic Recruit Training Obligations?

This seems to be the most frequent area of discussion, so I figured a few condensed links to previous questions would help people.


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posted 17 March 2021 23:02     Profile for PteJoe   Author's Homepage   Email PteJoe     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks a lot Yard Ape

Lots of good info

-Joe


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posted 09 April 2021 11:48     Profile for PteJoe   Author's Homepage   Email PteJoe     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Hmm does anyone know what one should do to keeep fit while you have the cold? This is throwing off my workout routine completely and my PT test is like two weeks away :P

I wanna appear as fit as I can. And of course, generally to be fit.

Anyone else come across something like this or is it something that just happens to me? lol


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posted 09 April 2021 12:33     Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Maintain your usual work out routine but at a lower intensity. ie: lower wieghts, shorter runs at a slow pace, etc.

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posted 09 April 2021 16:40     Profile for bossi   Email bossi     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Ooops ... (I've been busy, and didn't notice a question until today - sorry about that).

"Wind sprints" basically refers to sprinting and then resting - sometimes called interval training (vice endurance, or long distance running).

In my favourite hockey training book, it recommended running a measured distance (50 or 100 metres) and then walking back to the starting line - in theory, your breathing and heartbeat should have slowed back down by the time you return to the start, and then do it again.

Many exercise machines have settings for interval training (stair-masters, exercise bikes, treadmills) - the idea is to "push" yourself, and go as fast as you can for a short distance, then recover. In theory, you should then lengthen the distances and increase the speed as you become fitter.

This type of running is useful for "pepper-potting", aka "fire and movement" - when you have to get up and charge a short distance, then go to ground and cover your fireteam partner - it's also important to be able to keep your breathing under control, since it affects your marksmanship.

Okay - winter is retreating, and now it's time to get outside and "just do it" (to paraphrase Nike ads).

Good Luck.

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posted 14 April 2021 21:49     Profile for PteJoe   Author's Homepage   Email PteJoe     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks a lot it makes sense from the both of yous

That's excellent training for running when I have a cold.

I went to the gym today and thought my cold was pretty much gone until I ran about half a mile, my throat just killed me.

-Joe


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posted 14 April 2021 23:31     Profile for bossi   Email bossi     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Running indoors can be tough, especially when the air is dry.
Equally, running outdoors (with a cold) can be rough, too - however, during cold weather you can trap some moisture by wearing a light balaclava or even just a thin scarf over your mouth (I've got one of those "tubes" which can be shaped into a balaclava - it's thin enough I can wear it under my bike helmet during the winter).
It sounds "wimpy", but it's better than aggravating a chest cold (i.e. turning it into pneumonia).
If running is too tough when you're sick, there's always the treadmill - a brisk walk, or "speed-walking" can elevate your heartbeat, without killing your temporarily weakened lungs.

On the brighter side of things, summer is just around the corner, and then you can run in the sun!

Good Luck.

M.B.

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Yes, wonderful summer, can't wait for at least 18 degrees C... I'd be able to live that all year.

My PT test is soon, are there any particular things they make you do? Obviously what they test you there is what I'd be doing at Basic this summer.

Running might have to wait a while too, I'm kind of getting this little cough going.

That week of working out I missed doesn't help much for that PT test. But even today I was wowed at the condition of the cold that seemed to have disappeared.

Regards
-Joe


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