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And more news,builder for the 12 new MCM ships is known(replacement "tripartite-class),sorry for the "google" translation. :-X

Thanks to an unbeatable financial proposal, Naval Group would take the rope to extract from STX / Thales a € 2 billion contract for the supply of twelve minehunters to Belgium and the Netherlands. The naval group would also have benefited from a boost from Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian. What the Quai d'Orsay denies.

Atmosphere, atmosphere. Between STX, Thales and Naval Group, the atmosphere will soon be very, very explosive. The new Belgian Minister of Defense and Foreign Affairs, Didier Reynders, was supposed to award, on Friday after a restricted interdepartmental council, a contract for the purchase of twelve minesweepers by the Belgian navy (six vessels ) and the Netherlands (six others) for approximately € 2 billion. However, the decision could be postponed, according to concordant sources. Belgium has in principle until the end of the month to decide, the legislative elections are scheduled for May 26. Brussels is not at its first postponement.

    "The contract award for demining vessels has been slightly delayed for two to three months, partly because of the complexity of the procurement file," Defense Minister Didier Reynders said on Wednesday. Why: "In order to give bidders the maximum opportunity to submit compliant and optimized offers, it was necessary to extend the negotiation period by a few weeks".

The Belgian choice should generate strong explanations between the three groups which are closely linked to each other: STX is 15% owned by Naval Group, which itself has a stake in Thales (35%). For its part, the State has participations in the three groups. A little more consistency would have made the position of France more healthy situation. The consortium STX / Thales, backed by France, and Naval Group have engaged a fierce competition, too fierce ... which could be ultimately disastrous for both groups. An umpteenth Franco-French export war, which should never have taken place. Initially, the Directorate General of Armament (DGA) had asked the Naval Group not to compete but the group finally forced the door after the departure of the delegate general for weapons, Laurent Collet-Billon. The Hôtel de Brienne is delighted with a possible French victory in Belgium, explains one in the entourage of Florence Parly.

Three consortia submitted bids deemed credible by the Belgian Directorate General of Material Resources (DGMR), which has already eliminated the Spanish shipyard Navantia: the Dutch group Damen Schelde, associated with the company IMTECH België; a consortium called Sea Naval Solutions, bringing together the Thales shipyards, including Thales Belgium, STX France, Socarenam and the Antwerp firm Engine Deck Repair (EDR); and, finally, a consortium between Naval Group and ECA Robotics called Naval & Robotics.
Naval Group winner?

According to Belgian sources, it is Naval Group, who would hold the rope the day before (?) The award of contract in front of favorite STX / Thales, who was still the race in the lead in recent weeks. The naval group would have made an unbeatable financial proposal to win this market, which could not, it seems, not escape technologically and politically to the electronics group, one of the world champions, otherwise the champion anti-submarine warfare. Because sonar acoustic performance is the key to detecting mines and systems. "Between Thales and ECA, there are several divisions of difference in this area," ensures a very good knowledge of the case.

Thales, which has developed a CAPTAS 4 sonar of excellence for French multi-mission frigates (FREMM), is also working on a new-generation sonar for future nuclear launching submarines (SNLE). State-of-the-art technologies that meet the needs of the Belgian navy, a reference in NATO for mine warfare. This capacity is important for Belgium in a context of renewed international tensions, particularly with Russia, which tests Western defenses in the air and under the sea. "Belgium is the pilot country for a project on the future development of autonomous systems of mine action," said Wednesday the Belgian Defense Minister before the Defense Committee.

For example, last August, during an exercise off the coast of Norway, NATO's SNMCMG 1 mine-control fleet was under Belgian command, the command and support vessel being the Godetia. Every year, Belgian minesweepers take part in a NATO demining campaign carried out by an international squadron from the Baltic coast to the Mediterranean. According to the Belgian Ministry of Defense, stalking
 

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ECA Group won €450 million through Belgian-Dutch MCM contract

As part of the Belgian-Dutch Mine Counter Measures (MCM) contract awarded to the Belgium Naval & Robotics consortium, with a worth value of €2.2 billion, ECA Group is to win €450 million for the building and the procurement of a total of 100 drones (ROVs) to supply the 12 mine-hunting vessels.

As a reminder, a call for tenders was launched by the Belgian and Dutch navies in the Summer of 2018, seeking for companies to build a provide them 12 brand new autonomous mine-hunting vessels, scheduled to be fitted with a state-of-the-art toolbox.

Recently, the Belgian government in charge of the final decision has awarded the contract to the Belgium Naval & Robotics consortium, which regroups Naval Group and ECA Robotics. As part of this contract, ECA Group is in charge of the building of a total amount of 100 drones to supply the 12 mine-hunting vessels (6 for each navy).

The 10-year program will start with a design phase of about 3 years before the production and delivery phase of the drone systems. The contract should generate revenue starting 2019. This contract will be, by far, the largest contract ever won by ECA Group, its amount being greater than 4 years of turnover for the group.

This success is the achievement of a strategy focused for many years on the development of drone systems composed of multiple and varied drones cooperating as autonomously as possible within the same mission. In this case, it is a mine clearance mission at sea.

The Belgian and Dutch navies are thus acquiring the latest generation of mine hunters designed by Naval Group and fully integrating ECA Group's naval drones systems capable of conducting submarine mine clearance operations autonomously in the minefield. The drone systems to provide are the latest generations of drones developed over the last 4 years. The drones, all integrated into ECA Group's C2 MCM system, are Autonomous Underwater Vehicles (AUVs),towed sonars and Mine Identification & Destruction Systems (MIDS) composed of Remotely Operated Vehicles (ROV) for the identification and destruction of mines, all of these drones can be implemented fully automatically from the USV (Unmanned Surface Vehicles). The naval drones system also incorporates UAVs (Unmanned Aerial Vehicles) and sweeps.

The Belgian navy is a reference in submarine mine clearance within NATO, this contract is a major asset for export: as 40 years ago with the tripartite mine hunters program that had generated sales of PAP robots to dozens of marines in 20 years, this success in Belgium should generate many commercial export benefits in the coming years.

Several major navies including France, India or England will renew their mine hunting fleet in the coming years. In addition, ECA Group believes that most navies will also be equipped with transportable drone systems that can be used from the coast.

A significant part of the execution of the contract will take place in Belgium within ECA Robotics Belgium, as part of a cooperation plan that already includes 39 Belgian partners. The equipped surface drones will be designed and produced in Belgium and all underwater drones will also be produced there. Finally, these naval or air drones generate a logistic support, repairs, spares activities that can be done by ECA Robotics Belgium. These activities generate additional revenues as maintenance and support contracts throughout the lifespan of drones, generally greater than 20 years for naval drones.

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and a bit about the the new Thales X/S suite(wich will be on the new frigates)

Naval News
Gepubliceerd op 20 mrt. 2019
An important element of Thales' AWWS is the new "X/S Suite". This next-generation, fully digital dual-band X/S radar suite is an integral combination of the SeaMaster 400 fixed panel S-band radar suite and the APAR Block II X-band multi-function radar, both using gallium nitride technology.

https://youtu.be/QAUhBC7Eyfs
 

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Finally the new SMART-LMM is here(first ship,the.........."The Seven" will get it first) 8)


Thales SMART-L MM Radar Installed on HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën Frigate
The Royal Netherlands Navy HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën Frigate has received her SMART-L Multi Mission radar upgrade, providing enhanced Air and Missile Defense capability.

Xavier Vavasseur 23 Mar 2021

HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën is the lead ship of her class (also known as LCF for Air Defense and Command Frigate). All four ships of the class will be upgraded with the new radar (and other systems) as part of the modernization programme.

According to Thales, the SMART-L MM is a next generation Long Range Multi Mission Radar for Air and Space Surveillance and Ballistic Missile Detection. The fully digitally controlled Active Electronically Scanned Array (AESA) type of radar, applying GaN transmitter and Dual Axis Multibeam receiver technology, is capable of detecting a very wide variety of air and space objects including stealth, short up to long range ballistic missiles and space objects. The SMART-L MM is capable of surveillance and tracking of Ballistic Missiles up to 2000 km while simultaneous maintaining the Air Defence capability. Aboard the LCF vessels, the MM variant replaces the existing SMART-L radars.
Thales SMART-L MM Radar Installed on HNLMS De Zeven Provinciën Frigate 2

With the SMART-L MM, Thales is also considering export prospects such as the German Navy’s three Sachsen-class air-defence frigates (F 124) for which a requirement for new BMD capable radars as been issues, as well as further down the road, the upgrade of the French Navy’s two Horizon class air-defence destroyers.

Regarding the LCF, the mordernization effort includes other systems: Plans were announced in 2018 to acquire the BMD-capable SM-3 surface-to-air missiles (these plans still need to be confirmed). De Zeven Provinciën-class frigates can pass on the tracking and detection data to other sea-based or land-defense BMD assets, including U.S. Navy’s warships, that can deal with a ballistic missile threat.

On 3 May 2021 the Dutch Secretary of Defence, Barbara Visser, informed the Dutch national parliament that the Raytheon evolved sea sparrow missile (ESSM) aboard the De Zeven Provinciën-class frigates will be upgraded from block 1 to block 2. This upgrade will be completed by 2024 along with a new anti-ship missile (to replace the existing Harpoon). Last but not least, the existing 127mm Oto Melara (Leonardo) main guns will be replaced as those are over 50 years old and were acquired second hand from the Canadian Navy. On March 20th, a contract notice for the supply of 127mm guns was issued on the European tender platform TED. The programme named “Frigates 127 mm gun replacement program” has a estimated value between 50 and 200 million Euros. Both Leonardo and BAE Systems are expected to bid with their respective gun systems, along with their smart, guided ammunition.


https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2019/03/thales-smart-l-mm-radar-installed-on-hnlms-de-zeven-provincien-frigate/
 

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a bit more news about equipment onboard the vMFF(to be build frigates),and good news for the rest of the "fleet"


RNLN puts down marker for hard-kill torpedo defence | Jane's 360

https://www.janes.com/article/89548/rnln-puts-down-marker-for-hard-kill-torpedo-defence#.XRWzf3uxRkU.twitter

 

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The new CSS (Combat Support Ship),namesign"The Den Helder A834"

In Dutch,sorry,but you"ll get the picture,in service(hopefully)by 2023.

https://i.ibb.co/zQj5r61/css.jpg
 

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Karel Doorman said:
The new CSS (Combat Support Ship),namesign"The Den Helder A834"

In Dutch,sorry,but you"ll get the picture,in service(hopefully)by 2023.

https://i.ibb.co/zQj5r61/css.jpg

I couldn't find the exact article, but I did find another Dutch article on the same subject and below is the Google Translation:

  Combat support ship / supply ship Den Helder
By: Jaime Karremann  Last edited: 23-11-2021

    The Combat Support Ship (CSS), either supply ship or tanker, will in the future have to supply naval vessels of, among others, the Dutch fleet with fuel, spare parts and ammunition. In 2017 it was announced that this capacity will be added to the fleet. The ship must be put into service in 2023 and will be Zr.Ms. Go to Den Helder.

    Go directly to specifications (at the bottom of this page).

    CSS Den Helder
    The Combat Support Ship (CSS) in a still from an animation of the name disclosure in November 2018. (Image: DMO)

    Tasks
    A supply ship has the task of supplying naval vessels at sea. This concerns fuel for ships and helicopters / aircraft, spare parts, ammunition and victories (food and drink). Thanks to a supplier, ships can stay at sea for a longer period of time, and are therefore also more flexible in the event of a suddenly changing assignment. A supplier can sail along in a context and then supply the ships during a large voyage (when the Dutch navy made far-away squadron trips, a supplier often went along and the Chinese navy ships that now call in Europe often also have a supply ship with them).

    Another possibility is that, for example, frigates patrol during a sea blockade in a certain delimited area. The tanker can then commute between the ports and the frigates with fresh food, fuel, etc. without the frigates having to leave their 'box'.

    In addition to supplying, combat support ships can also perform other logistical tasks. For example, transporting material or acting as a floating hospital. Of course they can also be used for more general marine tasks. The Zuiderkruis and Amsterdam have done anti-piracy and drug control. Nevertheless, the emphasis in the CSS is on supply tasks.

    LSV Damen
    The Logistics Support Vessel (LSV) from Damen forms the basis for the new supply ship, where the cutlery of the Karel Doorman is fitted. (Photo: Damen)

    Robust, simple, reliable
    Despite the name combat support ship, it is a supply ship such as the Amsterdam, Zuiderkruis and Pole Star. Project leader Paul de Leeuw said about this in an interview: 'That is also the wish of Admiral Kramer (Commander of the Royal Netherlands Navy, JK). He wants a robust, simple, reliable and sustainable ship. No hassle. But the Amsterdam was a single-hit ship This new ship must be able to cash in and slap a blow, and that is also the case with the Doorman When the ship was designed, they said we must build a real warship, including redundancy and duplication in systems. C.S.S.'

From a distant past: beer at sea.

    Based on design Damen plus Karel Doorman
    There is little time to get the ship up and running, therefore an existing design is chosen as the starting point. After the requirements and the 'further specifications of requirements' (staff requirements) were completed in the spring of 2018, the specifications were worked on. The cutlery that was used was the cutlery from the Karel Doorman, but that had to be adjusted to the wishes of the CSS and had to fit within the LSV design. The LSV is a design by Damen that the company had offered to Norway.

    Not only did the JSS specifications have to be adjusted, the design of the LSV also underwent considerable changes. One of the changes is the size. The LSV was approximately 166 to 170 meters long, the CSS at the end of 2018 was exactly 179.5 meters. This was mainly due to the requirement that the amount of fuel that the ship must be able to deliver is equal to the capacity of the Doorman. Furthermore, the bow has changed, it has become a lot straighter to save fuel.

    The tanker will have a displacement of approximately 20,000 tons. This may seem substantial, but a small tanker was deliberately not chosen (comparable to, for example, small German tankers) because those tankers are often intended for small ships and short operating periods. The new tanker must be able to support a task group of six ships, even in bad weather, and that is only possible with a larger ship. Because the tanker must be double-walled due to new regulations and modern requirements regarding ammunition storage, the volume has also increased.

    The supply ship will have combined loading positions on starboard, port and rear, a large crane and space for 20 containers. The crew will consist of 75 m / v, there are 160 beds on board.

    The ship will be built in Romania by Damen.  There may be cooperation with Germany.

Specifications

Signal: A83? Name: Den Helder In service: 2022
Dimensions: 179.5 meters
Max water displacement: 20,000 tons
Max speed: 20 knots?
Crew: 75 (accommodation: 160)
Diesel-electric propulsion: (same as JSS)
Weapon systems: Hitrole ? Goalkeeper
Sensors: Thales NS100 Navigation radar
Helicopters: Multiple helicopters
Loading capacity, among others: 20 containers

Link Note: I did some minor editing especially for the specifications page.
 

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“This new ship must be able to cash in and slap a blow”.... I hope this is a Google translate error ... floating Casino?
 

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Cloud Cover said:
“This new ship must be able to cash in and slap a blow”.... I hope this is a Google translate error ... floating Casino?

yeah,i think they meant"must be able to take a hit and defend herself"(a bit)
 

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Germany’s $6.7 billion frigate deal with Dutch shipbuilder Damen may be the last of its kind

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2020/01/16/germanys-67-billion-frigate-deal-with-dutch-shipbuilder-damen-may-be-the-last-of-its-kind/#.XiDQZVrlYjl.twitter
 

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Latest news on the "to be biuld"CSS(and latest rendering)

https://www.damen.com/en/news/2020/02/main_contractor_damen_and_more_than_a_hundred_companies_contribute_to_css#.Xk1cLNlP-JQ.twitter
 

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Nigeria has ordered one of these https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/landing-ship/landing-ship-transport-100
 

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Nigeria has ordered one of these https://products.damen.com/en/ranges/landing-ship/landing-ship-transport-100

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https://www.defense-aerospace.com/articles-view/release/3/209747/damen-lays-keel-for-nigerian-navy-landing-craft.html
 

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Some more details on the to be build CSS"Den Helder"


38SWZ MARITIME • MARCH 2020With the Den Helder, the maritime supply capacity of the Royal Netherlands Navy will be restored. This ship will replace the HNLMS Amsterdam that de-commissioned due to budget cuts in 2014. The other supply vessel, the HNLMS Karel Doorman, entered the fl eet in 2015 replacing the HNLMS Zuiderkruis. The Den Helder will be delivered in June 2024 and is to be fully operational a year later.The ship will have a length over all of 178.3 metres, beam of 26.4 metres and the design draft is 8.3 metres. The displacement is 22,595 tonnes. It is somewhat smaller than the Karel Doorman (204.7 x 30.4 x 8.0 metres) with a displacement of 27.800 tonnes. This Joint Support Ship (JSS) has larger loading capacities and more facili-ties. The permanent crew of the Combat Support Ship (CSS) con-sists of 75 pax. In addition, facilities are available for another 85 pax for performing extra mission related assignments.Seven per cent effi ciency gainThe ship will be equipped with Wärtsilä diesel generator sets (Tier On the 19th of February, the Director of the Defence Materiel Organization Vice Admiral Arie Jan de Waard and the new CEO of Damen Shipyards Group Arnout Damen signed the contract for the new Combat Support Ship HNLMS Den Helder. The contract includes engineering and production. The event took place on the bridge of the HNLMS Karel Doorman, the so called Joint Support Ship, the other supply vessel that served as the basis for the new design. IMPROVED EFFICIENCY FOR NEW COMBAT SUPPORT SHIPN AV Y3) to deliver 15.8 megawatts installed power. Electric propulsion mo-tors and two fi xed pitch propellers allow for a maximum speed of 19 knots. Extensive model tests at Marin resulted in a seven per cent gain in propulsion effi ciency with regards to the JSS. Marin took the opportunity to celebrate the fact that the measurements were car-ried out with the 10,000th model since the institute was founded with a beautiful light show for a lot of guests.EquipmentThe ship is equipped with two Replenishment at Sea (RAS) stations on both sides constructed according to a NATO standard (STANAG) to provide NATO ships with fuel at sea, while both ships continue to sail and manoeuvre. The ship can supply 7600 m3 of diesel fuel (F 76) and 1000 m3 of aviation fuel (F44) and besides that 226 m3 of fresh water and 290 m3 of urea for application in a selective catalytic re-duction (SCR) catalysator. The ship is also able to supply solids at sea: ammunition (storage capacity 434 tonnes) and other goods such as provisions and spares. The ship can also carry 24 contain-ers on deck and one below deck. The ship will be equipped with two 40-tonne cranes.Two Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel (LCVP, 24 tonnes) will be placed in niches; one on starboard and one port side. The same ap-plies to the two Fast Raiding Interception and Special Forces Craft (FRISC, 10 tonnes). The ship will have two lifeboats. The ship also offers facilities for helicopter operations. The hangar is designed for operations with two NH 90 helicopters or a Merlin or NH90 in com-bination with two Unmanned Air Vehicles. The ship is equipped with a hospital (Role-2 basic afloat), which is less in size than onboard the JSS.SurvivabilityDuring the design of the CSS, specific attention was paid to enhance the ship’s survivability. That is, the ability of the ship and its systems to remain functional during a mission in a hostile environment. It is composed of a combination of the ship's suscepti-bility, vulnerability and recoverability. For the platform, this means that the signatures, underwater noise, radar cross section and in-frared (IR) radiation are reduced as much as possible. With regard to vulnerability: shock requirements will be applied, which will result in harness bulkheads and other protection and – N AV Yquite important – a well-designed general arrangement of the ship. The enhancement of recoverability is achieved for instance by dam-age control and firefighting and where effective, further automation.Internal communication is important and therefore a wireless sys-tem will be installed, whereby everyone is equipped with a mobile device, which also serves alarm handling. The ship will receive a most up-to-date cyber security system.  Focus on maintenancePreparation of the ship’s maintenance is very important for proper transfer to the fleet and, therefore, more attention is paid to produc-ing extensive technical documentation, purchasing the correct spare parts and education and training. The CSS Den Helder will be built entirely at Damen’s shipyard inGalati, Romania, including setting to work and the execution of sea trials. Construction will be in accordance with DNV-GL class rules and the Naval Ship Code, the naval equivalent to SOLAS
 

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38SWZ MARITIME • MARCH 2020

With the Den Helder, the maritime supply capacity of the Royal Netherlands Navy will be restored.

This ship will replace the HNLMS Amsterdam that de-commissioned due to budget cuts in 2014. The other supply vessel, the HNLMS Karel Doorman, entered the fleet in 2015 replacing the HNLMS Zuiderkruis. The Den Helder will be delivered in June 2024 and is to be fully operational a year later.

The ship will have a length over all of 178.3 metres, beam of 26.4 metres and the design draft is 8.3 metres. The displacement is 22,595 tonnes. It is somewhat smaller than the Karel Doorman (204.7 x 30.4 x 8.0 metres) with a displacement of 27.800 tonnes. This Joint Support Ship (JSS) has larger loading capacities and more facilities.

The permanent crew of the Combat Support Ship (CSS) consists of 75 pax. In addition, facilities are available for another 85 pax for performing extra mission related assignments.

On the 19th of February, the Director of the Defence Materiel Organization Vice Admiral Arie Jan de Waard and the new CEO of Damen Shipyards Group Arnout Damen signed the contract for the new Combat Support Ship HNLMS Den Helder. The contract includes engineering and production. The event took place on the bridge of the HNLMS Karel Doorman, the so-called Joint Support Ship, the other supply vessel that served as the basis for the new design.

IMPROVED EFFICIENCY FOR NEW COMBAT SUPPORT SHIP
Seven per cent efficiency gain

The ship will be equipped with Wärtsilä diesel generator sets (Tier) to deliver 15.8 megawatts installed power.  Electric propulsion motors and two fixed pitch propellers allow for a maximum speed of 19 knots.

Extensive model tests at Marin resulted in a seven per cent gain in propulsion efficiency with regards to the JSS. Marin took the opportunity to celebrate the fact that the measurements were carried out with the 10,000th model since the institute was founded with a beautiful light show for a lot of guests.

Equipment

The ship is equipped with two Replenishment at Sea (RAS) stations on both sides, constructed according to a NATO standard (STANAG) to provide NATO ships with fuel at sea, while both ships continue to sail and manoeuvre. The ship can supply 7600 m3 of diesel fuel (F 76) and 1000 m3 of aviation fuel (F44) and besides that 226 m3 of fresh water and 290 m3 of urea for application in a selective catalytic re-duction (SCR) catalysator.

The ship is also able to supply solids at sea: ammunition (storage capacity 434 tonnes) and other goods such as provisions and spares. The ship can also carry 24 containers on deck and one below deck. The ship will be equipped with two 40-tonne cranes.

Two Landing Craft Vehicle Personnel (LCVP, 24 tonnes) will be placed in niches; one on starboard and one port side. The same applies to the two Fast Raiding Interception and Special Forces Craft (FRISC, 10 tonnes). The ship will have two lifeboats.

The ship also offers facilities for helicopter operations. The hangar is designed for operations with two NH 90 helicopters or a Merlin or NH90 in com-bination with two Unmanned Air Vehicles.

The ship is equipped with a hospital (Role-2 basic afloat), which is less in size than onboard the JSS.

Survivability

During the design of the CSS, specific attention was paid to enhance the ship’s survivability. That is, the ability of the ship and its systems to remain functional during a mission in a hostile environment. It is composed of a combination of the ship's susceptibility, vulnerability and recoverability.

For the platform, this means that the signatures, underwater noise, radar cross section and in-frared (IR) radiation are reduced as much as possible. With regard to vulnerability: shock requirements will be applied, which will result in harness bulkheads and other protection and – quite important – a well-designed general arrangement of the ship.

The enhancement of recoverability is achieved for instance by damage control and firefighting and where effective, further automation.
Internal communication is important and therefore a wireless system will be installed, whereby everyone is equipped with a mobile device, which also serves alarm handling. The ship will receive a most up-to-date cyber security system.

Focus on maintenance

Preparation of the ship’s maintenance is very important for proper transfer to the fleet and, therefore, more attention is paid to producing extensive technical documentation, purchasing the correct spare parts and education and training.

The CSS Den Helder will be built entirely at Damen’s shipyard in Galati, Romania, including setting to work and the execution of sea trials. Construction will be in accordance with DNV-GL class rules and the Naval Ship Code, the naval equivalent to SOLAS

I think that makes it a bit more readable.

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HNLMS Karel Doorman - The Dutch Joint Support Ship Which Is Also Used By The German Navy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFyIUMFrjj0
 

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Finally new canons are ordered for the LCF class(The "the Seven")

Four 127/64 LW Vulcano's:


Leonardo Comments Dutch MoD Contract Award for 127mm Naval Guns

https://www.navalnews.com/naval-news/2020/04/leonardo-comments-dutch-mod-contract-award-for-127mm-naval-guns/
 
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