Post New Topic  
my profile | register | search | faq | forum home
    next newest topic
»  The War Diary   » The Combat and Supporting Arms   » Infantry   » Replacing guns

UBBFriend: Email this page to someone!    
Author Topic: Replacing guns
wanderer
FNG
Member # 147

Rate Member

posted 22 December 2020 18:42     Profile for wanderer   Email wanderer     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
For having been a soldier for 2 years, and having often used the C-7 riffle, all I can say is that it is a GREAT weapon. it is light, precise, and easy to use and clean! (easy cleaning is a MUST because it's a pain in the a**). The sight is O.K.; not the best I have used, but at an adequate distance (at least 100 metres), it's a suitable scope; plus it has "combat sights" on top, which resemble the former sight when the C-7 still had a handle... Anyway, from what I've heard, the issue is NOT to replace the C-7, but to improve it; one added item is the grenade launcher (no, I'm not kidding!).

The C-6 is a very powerful weapon, so if the DND wants to replace it, the new weapon would have to be OUTSTANDING. The C-6 stability is only equalled by its great range and accuracy.

As for the C-9, I must admit the C-79 sight is a bit to precise to be used on the C-9, but it is still a powerful section weapon. indeed, while there is only ONE C-6 per platoon, there are 2 C-9 per Sections, ready to provide cover when it's needed!

Of course, it is hard to say "I am for" or "I am against" changing these weapons. To me, they seem still adequate for our needs. I would have to SEE and TRY the hypothetical new weapons to take a clear decision... in any case, I like the C-6, love the C-9 and adore the C-7!


Posts: 1 | From: Québec | Registered: Dec 2000
Mud Crawler
Veteran Member
Member # 68

Member Rated:

posted 27 December 2020 18:56     Profile for Mud Crawler   Email Mud Crawler     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I've never fired the C7, but the only time i shouldered it, I found it's close to 10 pound weight ws perfect for stabalizing it.I put the crosshair(if we can call it a crosshair) on some window lets say at 60 meters and it stayed stable.I like it already.
Posts: 145 | From: St-Hilaire, Qc, Ca | Registered: Sep 2000
the patriot
Moderator
Member # 144

Member Rated:

posted 29 December 2020 20:52     Profile for the patriot   Email the patriot     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Gentlemen,

We had a discussion on this piece quite some time ago. You can refer to it in the archives if you select "Go to postings from last year". It's heading is "The C7 VS. the FNC1A1". And further to some musings by certain individuals. All are welcome on this forum for a discussion, regardless of their MOC, time in, civy, and ex-military.

-the patriot-


Posts: 192 | From: The Great White North | Registered: Jun 2000
Yard Ape
Veteran Member
Member # 158

Member Rated:

posted 21 March 2021 13:45     Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
What about a new HMG to replace the .50 for the light Inf? I hear the US has developed a 25 mm machine gun. Improved rate of fire should be a consideration. Maybe 10 mm or 15 mm would be better for a new HMG. These sizes bracket the current size and would limit an increased is ammo weight required by a greater rate of fire.

Yard Ape


Posts: 132 | From: Northern Ontario | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
ender
Veteran Member
Member # 189

Member Rated:

posted 21 March 2021 22:41     Profile for ender   Email ender     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I love the C6.

(except when I have to lug it around all weekend on winter ex and they have 556 blanks but no 762 so I didn't even get to shoot it, but I guess I didn't have to clean it either. Plus the infantry regiments didn't even bring thier machine gun so I got to impress all my infantry friends. End of rant)

Don't love the C9 as much. The scope is just silly.


Posts: 101 | From: toronto | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
McG
Veteran Member
Member # 150

Member Rated:

posted 22 March 2021 00:46     Profile for McG   Email McG     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
There are 7.62 blanks. Unfortunatly many reserve units cannot afford to train with these given their current budgets. The same is true for larger weapons.
Posts: 111 | From: London | Registered: Jan 2001  |  IP: Logged
Yard Ape
Veteran Member
Member # 158

Member Rated:

posted 22 March 2021 11:53     Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The light Inf could also put 40 mm automatic grenade launchers to good use.

yard Ape


Posts: 132 | From: Northern Ontario | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
ender
Veteran Member
Member # 189

Member Rated:

posted 22 March 2021 12:18     Profile for ender   Email ender     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
I know 762 blanks exist (I've seen some), our unit tried to get some but we couldn't for some reason. Lugging around that big heavy machine gun is no fun if you can't shoot it.
("bang bang bang, budget cuts, budget cuts")

Posts: 101 | From: toronto | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
Master Blaster
Veteran Member
Member # 60

Member Rated:

posted 29 March 2021 11:15     Profile for Master Blaster   Email Master Blaster     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Come on you guys! If you can't hump it, dump it! The question isn't wether you should have to fire the F'n thing, it's do you know how to deploy it in the defesive/offensive roles? Was it in the Light (bipod) mode or the SF kit that makes it an outstanding 1000m weapon? Area denial as well as hit/kill/wound ratios are the primary roles of the GPMG and the C6 has been demonstrating that capability for 40 years (originally called the MAG 58, this weapon has been deployed in armed forces throughout the world since 1958/59).

Just a note from an old soldier...if you humped it all weekend, you damned well better have cleaned it before returning it to the Q. Water, dust and grit are almost as hard on the GPMG as firing blank ammo. I've seen too many excellent weapons reduced to expensive paper weights because of lax cleaning and user maintenance practices. From your posts ender, I make exception...you are probably one of the most informed and intelligent NCO's I heard from in the last 29 years (present company excepted, of course).

Regarding 7.62 lniked blanks, theyu are available in the system though are getting more difficult to obtain. Suggest to your Ops O that he/she order 6 to 9 months in advance of training to ensure that supply is available and that your unit can afford them.

As always

Dileas Gu Brath

--------------------


Posts: 45 | From: Ontario, Canada | Registered: Aug 2000  |  IP: Logged
Yard Ape
Veteran Member
Member # 158

Member Rated:

posted 30 March 2021 11:12     Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
The GPMG is great. It is with the heavier stuff that we are lacking. The rate of fire on the .50 is too slow, and we have nothing bigger which can be deployed by the Light Inf.

Yard Ape


Posts: 132 | From: Northern Ontario | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged
ender
Veteran Member
Member # 189

Member Rated:

posted 04 April 2021 23:06     Profile for ender   Email ender     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
Thanks for the complement Master Blaster!

I've never actually seen the SF kit and I probably won't unless I get my gunners course. (please, please I want a gunners course!)

And yes I did clean it before I turned it in, and yes it did need cleaning.

I complained about the lack of 7.62 blanks to my troop commander after the excercise, and maybe they'l sort it out. (ha, I doubt it) I don't even know who the ops O is, and he probably doesn't like private level sappers telling him what to do anyway.


Posts: 101 | From: toronto | Registered: Feb 2001  |  IP: Logged

All times are ET  

Post New Topic   Close Topic    Move Topic      next newest topic
Hop To:

Contact Us | CdnArmy.ca | Privacy Statement

© 2001 CdnArmy.ca. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by Infopop Corporation
Ultimate Bulletin BoardTM 6.1.0.beta-0.1