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the patriot
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March 6, 2021


Former captain found guilty of raid torture
Subject of Somali inquiry: Corporal kidnapped and assaulted during La Citadelle exercise


James Cudmore
National Post

The Canadian Press


Former Canadian Airborne Regiment captain Michel Rainville faces 14 years in prison for the 1992 torture of a subordinate. In 1993, Rainville allegedly offered to buy a case of beer for the first soldier to kill a Somali during a security patrol.


A former Canadian Airborne Regiment captain has been found guilty of torturing a subordinate during a military training exercise.

Michel Rainville led a commando-style raid on La Citadelle, a historic fortress in Quebec City, during which a corporal was kidnapped and assaulted.

Rainville achieved national notoriety for leading a platoon in Somalia in 1993 that killed a civilian.

In a 20-page judgment, Pierre Verdon, a Quebec Court judge, said he did not agree with legal arguments submitted by Rainville, nor did he believe his testimony.

Rainville, who pleaded not guilty, faces a maximum of 14 years in prison when he is sentenced on March 26. He has 30 days to appeal the decision.

René Verret, the Crown attorney, said: "I didn't expect it, but I wished that the judgment would be like this," Mr. Verret said. "We are very happy of course."

The charges arose from a military training operation on Feb. 7, 1992, dubbed "Adieu Bonhomme," designed to test the security of the facility.

François Savage, a former corporal who was posted at La Citadelle, testified he was tortured, interrogated and abused by members of the 15-man commando patrol led by Rainville who had stormed his sleeping quarters in the middle of the night.

Mr. Savage told the court a soldier shoved a police baton into his anus so hard he was almost lifted off the ground, and that later, while he was bound with military duct tape face down on a bed, another soldier inserted the barrel of a rifle into his anus.

"If you have any final prayers, say them now," Mr. Savage testified he was told by one of the balaclava-clad commandos who had pressed a cocked 12 gauge shotgun firmly against the prone soldier's neck.

During Rainville's trial in August, Michel Guignard, a former corporal who served alongside the officer in the Royal 22nd Regiment -- the Van Doos -- said he couldn't believe the attack was perpetrated by members of his own regimental family.

"We're in the Van Doos, but we have a heart. [The regiment] was it, my family ... we would have gone to war for you."

Mr. Guignard described the raid as "the worst 45 minutes of my life.

"I have no life any more, I'm living on the fringe ... I've lost my wife ... I tried to kill myself, I went into psychiatric care. I'm dead inside."

Mr. Verret said: "At the time, no charges were laid by the military authorities, and [Rainville] was not charged and brought to a court martial.

"But Mr. Savage has always continued with this process, and in the end he went to [General Maurice] Baril, [the Chief of Defence Staff] who decided then to let the civil authorities look at the case."

Rainville gained notoriety when he was castigated by the Somalia Commission of Inquiry for allegedly offering to buy a case of beer for the first soldier to kill a Somali during a March 4, 1993, security patrol.

Rainville was alleged to have told his soldiers he would buy a "six-pack for a wound, and a 24 for a kill."

Hours later, soldiers under Rainville's direct command shot two Somalis, killing one.

Rainville, who was considered by superiors to be a renegade, was later charged under military law with causing bodily harm and negligent performance of duty. He was found not guilty and left the Canadian Forces to begin studies in physical education.

In their report, members of the Somalia Commission found much of Rainville's testimony about the shooting incident to be unbelievable.

They said the officer should never have been deployed to Somalia, citing "obvious and serious discipline, judgement, and leadership flaws."

The Somalia Commission report makes mention of the incident at La Citadelle as an example of Rainville's poor leadership and his penchant for wild commando tactics. The report also brings up an incident on May 15, 1992, during a training exercise at Canadian Forces Base Gagetown involving the taking of prisoners.

"Capt. Rainville struck several 'captured' officers and soldiers, including most notably Capt. Sandra Perron [one of Canada's first female army combat officers] ostensibly to simulate the treatment of POWs," the report found.


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posted 10 March 2021 02:23     Profile for Mud Crawler   Email Mud Crawler     Send New Private Message     Edit/Delete Post   Reply With Quote
That guy is sick and should never have gotten in teh army in teh first place. and no one is gonna stick a rifle up my butt, because beside me breaking his jaw and a few teeth, I would have filed complaints both at civilian and court martial.This is a serious offense, even worse a cocked 12 gage, common, I tought they passed IQ tests to see if we had brains.

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It's quite disconcerting to say the least. How did he get so high in the ranks with his way of doing things?
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Mud Crawler:

Read the article carefully, the member this happened to did pursue it which is why Rainville was convicted.

As for the tough talk, it's easy to say that in the comfort of your home while sitting at your computer. This happened in the middle of the night and the member was subdued and restrained before he could do anything. Also, this wasn't a case of it being a preplanned BDF exercise, this was something that happened unannounced and very much off the books.

If someone cocks a weapon and threatens me with it I'm going to do pretty much whatever it takes to get out of there alive, I suggest that you should do the same. Keep the false bravado for your friends who are impressed by it. There are those of us on this board who have actually been in situations where our lives were in peril and we appreciate the value of them.


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I have to agree with garb811.

You can say you would punch someones lights out, but it you are attacked by a two sections with weapons (that you can only assume are loaded) it's going to be pretty hard for you beat them.

You can talk about filing complaints and such, but easier to say than to do. (it's especially hard when you are a junior NCO filing a complaint on a captain)

I would have hoped that the members of this forum would show a bit of professionalism by regocnising the actual situation. You can't judge people for thier conduct under fire unless you have were there. I don't know how I would react under such a situation, but I do know that I couldn't subdue a 16 man patrol. And unless you are superman MudSlinger, I don't think you could either. Especially unarmed.


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