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Grayson,
The Brits and Yanks wanted us to send a tank division to the Gulf.  But they didn't
want Leopards, the Yanks offered to supply M1A1s for a tiny price, but we refused.
Why?  The political implications of buying kit not made in Canada.
Here's another story that I heard tossed around.  Some American armoured regement
wanted some enemy force training against opponents with equal kit. ie. the Abrams.
They sent a few of their tanks up for a bunch of our guys to train on for about a
week.  So the Americans came up and the exercise was on, and guess what happened.
We sent them running with their tails between their legs!
Our armoured corps is not obselete, nor is its role in the CF
Mike
Grayson McCready wrote:
>  Hi
>
> I'm going to come in on the other side of the argument.  Canada has
> demonstrated a lack of will to fight along side our allies in a serious
> ground war. ( Gulf War)
>
> So new tanks would not be the best way to spend that money.  We seemed
> happy to take on those roles that had a minimum of risk ( no disrespect to
> the sailors and aviators) so we should spend the money on updating the
> equipment they will use, new Hercs seaborne Helicopters and widgets for
> the CF-18s for example.
>
> The Americans and the Brits were happy to take on allies ( arabs) who had
> an equipment mix of similar vintage of our Leo/M113 team but for sure,
> they didn't lead.
>
> By letting the Leos go without replacement we're just admitting what our
> allies already know, Canada is not in the serious war fighting business
>
> Cheers
> Grayson
>
>  On Tue, 29 Feb 2000, Patrick Cain wrote:
>
> > At 11:48 29/02/2021 -0500, John Gilmour wrote:
> > >Sorry I meant to say that they do not need any new/latest generation MBT's !
> > >As infantry support the Leopard 1, with upgrades is quite sufficient for
> > >Canada's military role .
> > >The likliehood of Canada going it alone in any sort of conflict is zero we
> > >would be paired up with heavy Armoured Formations of say the USA or the UK.
> >
> > Canada's lack of a serious ground role in the Gulf would seem to contradict
> > that. Neither Britain or the United States want to get involved in serious
> > ground combat alongside allies with obsolete equipment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Patrick Cain
> >
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