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Korus
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"Tenant ordered to remove 'offensive' Canadian flag" - Edmonton Journal

This is not the first time it's happened in Edmonton either... Shows just how grateful some people are to be living in Canada.

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Any details? Web link?
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Check the title.. that was the weblink to the article...
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Thanks very much. Didn't display differently on my screen until I scrolled over it.

Clips from the article:

"... landlord (ed note - Boardwalk Equities) ... order[ed] ... the Canadian flag out of his front window because it might offend non-Canadians or new immigrants."

" ... he wanted to express his patriotism and his support for Canadian troops who will soon leave the city for Afghanistan."

"MP for Edmonton Centre East had plenty to say about the matter.

'It was the outrageous content of the company's explanation -- that some people might be upset -- that got me,' Canadian Alliance MP Peter Goldring said.

'I would expect to hear something like that in Quebec, but not in Edmonton.' "

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Nice to see the MP supporting the tenant, but he sure did it in typical Reform foot-in-mouth style, didn't he? Must be looking for another chance to renew tensions in Quebec.

I guess the tenant will have to check to see if the landlord can enforce the "proper draperies" rule. What if he had a couple of flags sewn together to hang on a curtain rod???

I'm competely dumbfounded at the suggestion that people who have moved to Canada would be offended by seeing the Canadian flag. My experience is that many immigrants are more patriotic about their chosen country than many native citizens who take it for granted.

Egad.

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For once I agree with you, rat.
I would have told the landlord to piss up a rope. Who would come to Canada seeking a new life and be offended by the single most representative symbol of that freedom? The stupidity of people who have a legal right to education never ceases to amaze me....
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If the Canadian flag offends anybody who lives in Canada/has a citizenship then they should just get the **** out.


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Then again, hanging a flag in a window is a severe show of disrespect; flags are not curtains and are not intended to be used as such - nor bedspreads, bathmats etc.
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(Daniel Igali after winning gold)

This is what an immigrant did with our flag in the Olympics. Put it on the floor kissed and then ran around it three times. Others choose to wrap it around themselves. Others choose to run with it flowing behind them. This country needs to see more of this kind of love for the flag. If this fellow hung it in the window it's because the apartment didn't have a flag pole. Hats off to the young fellow for loving his country and a good kick in the A** for the landlord. Canadians in general are not flag wavers but "For those who served and who serve now" maybe we should be. O Canada eh [Canadian]

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Michael --

Exactly the point! The irony is that he can't display the flag proudly and properly, but might display it improperly (as a curtain).

I just hope that the landlord receives sufficient feedback to show them when they are out of line - both for their decision regarding the flag, and for the incredible stupidity displayed in the reasoning behind it.
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I've noticed that many people (civies) do claim to be patriotic, but when it really comes down to it, they aren't...

I'm somewhat envious of the US in the respect that they aren't afraid to show that they love their country, and aren't shuned when they do.
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I agree with everyone of the comments,it should be taken up in radio andtelevision about patriotism or the lack of it in canada.Perceived or otherwise my impression after serving 14 yrs is that canadians just don't give a ****! excluding those that have served or are serving and im sure there are others.

It's just that because we have such a small force and so few in the country have served recently,it doesn't hit home the sacrifices involved,down in yhe states where i reside at present almost everyone i talk to has a relative or has lost one,so they can all relate.

Our countrys problem good or bad is that it has not been involved in a major conflict and the perception is that we are hiding behind the usa for our security,the first step i may add to losing our identity as a nation,no matter what is said i see in the future a strong possibility that we could become the 51st state!

a thought i do not relish. [Frown]
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If people where more patriotic, and where as proud of the military as the US is of theirs, then maybe the politicians would try to use it to boost their popularity, and increase funding to the military, and try and bring it out of this nose dive...
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http://www.pch.gc.ca/ceremonial-symb/Etiquette/flag_e.htm

Here is a link to the Canadian Heritage site on flag etiquette. Notice what it says under "projected from a building," would this incident fall under this?

Also does anybody know if Canadian would salute the Union Jack, or any Flags of International Organizations (such as UN, Nato, etc.)?

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i dont think flag etiquette is the problem there. it says "displayed horizontally or at an angle from a window or balcony, the canton must point outward." but do you really think that a landlady who orders someone to take down his national flag because it might "offend" some ppl would know that? she doesnt care! and no ones going to sue you for sewing the flag on your backpack or something, at least we hope not.

canadians need to take pride in their country, period.


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A friend of mine is a photographer whose work often appears in the Toronto Sun - Her latest project is a postcard for the troops (should appear in the Sun this weekend).

If I can figure out how to insert the picture, I hope you'll agree this is definitely a flag to salute!

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