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brad_dennis
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posted 17 September 2021 16:04      Profile for brad_dennis   Email brad_dennis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Give me the Pros and Cons of living in Petawawa and joining the RCD or living in Edmonton and joining the PPCLI. If accepted as an OF in the infantry, I'm leaning towards PPLCI just for the simple fact that I have never lived out west and would like to.
..... Btw does one have the option of saying no to Shilo if one chooses the PPCLI or is that decision made for you. Let's have it, but please try to remember that "because so and so are a bunch of f---ing slope-headed morons" won't really be helpful

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posted 17 September 2021 16:11      Profile for RCA     Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The problem with Shilo being...


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posted 17 September 2021 16:16      Profile for brad_dennis   Email brad_dennis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
I have relatives in edmonton who would make great dog sitters
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posted 17 September 2021 16:23      Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
You can state your preference as to which battalion you would like to go to, but the final decision is made by the army.

btw, how far do you plan to get as an infantryman in the RCDs? They are tankers. I will assume you wanted to say RCR.

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posted 17 September 2021 16:27      Profile for brad_dennis   Email brad_dennis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
HAHA - Ya I figured I'd just run along infront the tanks and take out any mines with my cement boots. You assumed correctly.
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posted 17 September 2021 16:32      Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
With the RCR you could also request a posting to the battalion in Gagetown NB.

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posted 17 September 2021 19:35      Profile for Pete   Email Pete   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
brad.

Pettawawa. They have good training grounds. the base is old and wearing down. The town of pet is really boring. No night life, no excitment unless you like to fish and hunt a lot. The town of Pet is not 100 % pro army.Ottawa is only 2 hours away which is good.

Edmonton. (ive never lived there this is what ive heard. dont quote me on this) The base of Edmonton is newer better living quarters. The training grounds are good. The city of Edmonton is more exciting the Pet. Better night life, more things to do on a weekend, mountains close by, or the city thing. The city is really pro army. Not a lot of liberals out there!

Overall I think Edmonton would be better life style, less boredom, more options, it is cheaper to live there to, no Provinsial sales tax.

Good Luck
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posted 18 September 2021 20:45      Profile for the patriot   Author's Homepage   Email the patriot   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Here's another option for you. If you're feeling adventurous, pick the VanDoos. You'll be put in Valcartier or Quebec City. Why would I madly suggest this?! Montreal is barely two hours away. You would never be bored there. Plenty of nightlife and activities to keep you occupied. The same goes for Valcartier and Quebec City. Just an idea. I hear this coming from people all the time. Where should I go?!!! Hmmm.......

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posted 19 September 2021 23:00      Profile for Master Blaster   Email Master Blaster   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Go where you're told to go...

Do what you're told, when to do it and how many times to do it...

Watch all that you can see, select the best parts and put away the rest...

Above all, make the most of you're time; it's the only thing you'll own.

All the Best

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posted 19 September 2021 23:31      Profile for brad_dennis   Email brad_dennis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
gee.. that was helpful. Was that somehow relevant to the post?
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posted 20 September 2021 13:27      Profile for Bloggins   Email Bloggins   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Er, not that Master Blaster needs me to interpret or defend his posts for him, but the answer would be yes.

Read what he says again. He's not talking about where you're going to get the best deal on an apartment. He's telling you about how to live in the army. And that's where your real home is going to be, no matter where you're posted.

Make sense?


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posted 20 September 2021 16:02      Profile for Pete   Email Pete   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
well bloggins, that is true. the army is your home.
but it still does matter what "apartment you live in". that can mean alot to live in a community where you are welcomed and have lots of options. Where as if you live in a town that will make you feel miserable on your time off...well thats no good. So Brad make sure for your future you choose a place that you know you will want to be for a few years. a place where you can enjoy yourself on time off and have a chance to meet people. Its your future. [Sniper]

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posted 20 September 2021 17:57      Profile for brad_dennis   Email brad_dennis   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
Bloggins, if you re-read my original post again, it's not only where, but I ask the question about the regiment also. RCR as opposed to PPCLI. Hence the title Can O' Worms.....

If I was concerned only with creature comforts and "getting the best deal on an apt" I wouldn't be joining the CF infantry now would I? I do however like to make a decision based on some sort of recce and I know virtually nothing of the west. Could be there is no difference in the nature of the PPCLI and RCR, but I don't know that.

What's you opinion on the nature of the RCR and Pettawa versus PPCLI and Shilo or Edmonton. Biased or not I'd like to hear them.

I'm not looking for general philosophy on army life, but facts and opinions on which to form a base for a decision, which could possibly effect how successful and effective Iam in my chosen path.
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posted 21 September 2021 07:57      Profile for Yard Ape   Email Yard Ape   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
The PPCLI have a reputation as being cowboys, and the RCR have a reputation for being very annal. I won't share my opinion in this area, but I figured this is the information you are looking for.

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posted 21 September 2021 09:33      Profile for towhey   Author's Homepage   Email towhey   Send New Private Message      Edit/Delete Post  Reply With Quote 
First, a disclaimer: I was PPCLI for 14+ years.

I joined the PPCLI because it was based in the west where I wanted to live, had a battalion at the time in Germany where I wanted to serve, was a regiment I had exposure to as a reservist, and was the regiment of a number of officers and NCOs I had met and admired.

The PPCLI, the RCR and the Vandoos are all very good at what they do. However, you are right when you suspect that there are cultural differences between the regiments. In fact, there are very noticeable (and somewhat unexplainable) cultural differences between battalions of the same regiment.

I served in both Third and Second Battalions of the PPCLI and my personal feeling was that 2nd Battalion lived by the "work hard, play hard" philosophy. This sounded great, but it sometimes could get out of hand. 3VP, on the other hand lived by the "we have fun doing our job" philosophy. There, you were allowed to have fun at work. Both were equally adept at their soldier skills. Personally, I preferred the 3VP approach: I was good at my job and enjoyed doing it.

My sense of the RCR, having worked with many excellent officers and NCOs from that regiment: they are also very professional -- but they seem to display a more powerful awareness of history, and take their role as Canada's "senior" infantry regiment very seriously. Personally, I thought this made them (as a collective group, not necessarily as individuals) occasionally slow to adopt new thinking and changes to time-tested procedures. To wit: battle drills -- while the PPCLI were developing new section battle drills, the RCR (it seemed to me) were hoping not to have to give up "sections in line, forward march, left foot -- bullet."

Just one man's opinion... I'd be interested to hear thoughts and perspectives from RCR and Vandoos members.

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