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Re: Red Sash

Clive and Francois:
Doesn't UCC carry Battle Honour(s) from the War of 1812 (or was it just
the Fenian Raids?).
"F. A." wrote:
> 
> Clive,
> 
>         1836? I understood that CC#2 was formed as a drill association in 1864
> around the Fenian raids. Do you have any literature or info on the 1836 date?
> I'm doing research into the cadet movement and this would be most helpful.
> Thanks...
> 
> Francois Arseneault
> 
> [email protected] wrote:
> 
> > Jeff,
> >
> > Only in Cadets where I had the honour of being the cadet RSM of the British
> > Commonwealth's oldest cadet corps - Bishop's College School Cadet Corps
> > (CC#2) founded in 1836. However, if your comment is based on my previous
> > post, I should tell you that I, as a lowly 2LT, only did the SI. It was the
> > CO who passed sentence.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JEFF HYSLOP [mailto:[email protected]]
> > Sent: February 14, 2021 6:54 PM
> > To: [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: Red Sash
> >
> > Clive;
> >
> > You sound like someone that has never worn a sash!
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]>
> > Date: Monday, February 14, 2021 10:52
> > Subject: RE: Red Sash
> >
> > >You are correct that MWOs and CWOs in the Guards (at least) wear a darker
> > >sash. Burgundy is the colour that comes to mind but that may because I had
> > >too much wine last night. I believe that Highland Regiments also wear
> > >different shades as I seem to remember seeing the Black Watch RSM in a
> > >darker sash than his NCOs. This sash is not to be confused with that worn
> > by
> > >some Highland Regiment officers.
> > >BTW, Many moon ago I had to do a Summary Investigation on a Canadian
> > >Grenadier Guard MWO who, due to his considerable girth, took two silk
> > sashes
> > >and spliced them into one XXL sash. The findings resulted in the MWO paying
> > >for replacement sashes. In 1974 this amounted to $120.00, about 3 days pay
> > >then!
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Ian Edwards [mailto:[email protected]]
> > >Sent: February 12, 2021 11:13 PM
> > >To: [email protected]
> > >Subject: Re: Red Sash
> > >
> > >
> > >The originator of this "thread" also asked about varying colours
> > >of the sash. I don't recall the answer and hope someone else will, but I
> > >am sure Sgts and S/Sgt (or Colour Sergeants in Guards regiments and ?)
> > >and now Sgts and WOs wore/wear scarlet while WO2s (MWOs) wore maroon
> > >sashes. Can't recall why the difference. Hope someone knows.
> > >Next question: when did the tradition start, or rather become formalized
> > >in dress codes. I would bet after Crimean War, but perhaps Napoleonic
> > >wars? Should be easy to research. Damned hard to keep the sash "up" in
> > >that era of the 70s and later when there were no shoulder straps on CF
> > >tunics!
> > >
> > >Ian Edwards
> > >
> > >Bryon McLeod wrote:
> > >>
> > >> . The sash is traditionally worn by "line"
> > >> regiments which carry colours. This includes Highland and Scottish
> > >regiments
> > >> but excludes Rifle regiments as they do not carry colours per se
> > (although
> > >> many have them on their cap badges).
> > >>
> > >> Hi all ,....
> > >>
> > >> I wanted to add that in some regiments Drum Majors wear a claret sash it
> > >is
> > >> sort of similar to a Sgt. sash but made of silk.  In addition the very
> > >same
> > >> is seen with officers et. al. Capt. of the week.
> > >>
> > >> Bryon
> > >>
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